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5/20/2025

Egg Eating Snake Not Eating Troubleshooting

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Its literally in the name!

For egg eating snakes, periods of not eating really is the #1, and practically only, anxiety producing thing about them. So lets go over it. 

First thing first, I'm sure you already went over the usual husbandry stuff of temperature/humidity /security (hide)? No? Start there first. Yeah? Ok moving on. 

So it's important to know that egg eaters in the wild are boom/bust feeders. This means that they will eat as much as they can for about 3 months (while the birds are laying) and then not eat for the rest of the year. So your egg eater may just not be hungry. Its very normal for them, it doesn't mean there is anything wrong. 

But ok, lets assume they are or may be... 

If you've been consistently syringe feeding them, the odds are high that they just aren't hungry enough to make the effort to take down the egg. Why put in the work when you can get your human to do it for you right? 😂 

So as odd as it sounds if you want that baby to eat eggs, sometimes you gotta stop feeding them to get them feeding. Now you can only do that safely if you know how much they weigh, so you'll need a microgram scale, weigh them, stop feeding them by syringe for 2 weeks, weigh again. If they've lost more than 10% of their body weight, syringe feed until they're back at weight. If not, offer the egg that week see what happens.

If the concern with the syringe feed is that they aren't growing enough to gain size, then the best thing to do would be to use the smallest egg possible and add some of the powdered quail egg to bring up the nutrient density. that will help them grow. There's more details on why that is here.

Having that said, they really don't grow as noticeably as carnivorous snakes do. If you were to "power feed" them (which again is normal for them), they may gain 2-4x their bodies weight in a year- which is still massive growth!  So if they started at say 3g, they might weigh 6-12g within the first year. For a carnivorous snake that starts at 150g getting to 450 is a huge visible difference, but when your egg eating snake starts so tiny, and the change occurs so slowly- it's totally understandable to be anxious about if they are gaining weight. So what to do is to get a gram scale (that can measure in 10ths of a gram for hatchlings), and weigh them whenever you need that reassurance. That way you can see the progress easier.

It can be a little anxiety producing, especially if you come from a carnivorous snake background. Hey Im used to it, and I still do it regularly so it's totally normal to have a little anxiety about it. So get you a gram scale. It helps. 

Ok so now that we've gone over those things, let's talk about what to try to get them onto the eggs.

First up we need to know if the eggs are good. They won't eat them no matter what we do if the eggs are bad or have started to develop a chick inside (no longer entirely liquid).

To test if eggs are good, use the float test. Submerge the egg in water; if it sinks and lies horizontally, it's fresh. If it floats or tilts upward, it's old or bad. Additionally, crack one of the eggs open and inspect the white. It should be thick, slightly cloudy, and not watery. If the white is watery, it's likely an older egg.

Sometimes suppliers collect eggs over several days to acquire enough to send in one shipment, and some bird species have only an 18 day incubation from laid to hatch, so if the egg is starting to develop an embryo (there's parts that are no longer liquid) the snake won't eat them. 

Another thing to consider is how you may be storing them. If you're keeping them in the fridge with your other food items, sometimes the smells from the other food can make egg shells smell odd.

This is especially true of commercially bought eggs because, along with other criteria, for an egg to be USDA-grade, it's required by law that eggshells be sanitized before being packaged and sold. As a result, this process strips the eggshells of their natural protective oils — which makes the shells smell less bird like and the thousands of tiny pores in the shell more easily permeated by strong odors that could be lurking in your fridge. Onions are a notable offender. 

The solution here is to store them in an air tight plastic carton, you can get a basic pack of two off of Amazon for $10 here. Theres fancier models that you can record the dates with and stuff like that too. 

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or simply place in their own mini fridge if you're feeling extra fancy 🤣

So take a sniff. If it doesn't smell like bird to you, they're not gonna know what it is, and won't eat it.  

Another thing since we're on the topic of storage, since eggshells are so porous, bacteria that form on used eggshells can easily contaminate the rest of the eggs— so never return used eggs to a carton. According to the Food Safety and Inspection Service, you should never reuse an old foam egg carton for that same reason, too. If you're using the plastic reusable kind, running them through the dishwasher before reuse is fine. Be sure to follow the usual safety protocols you would for handling raw eggs. Stay safe of course.

Ok so eggs are good, moving on.

First thing to try would be to spray the cage down daily to keep a relative humidity of 80% for about a week. You can let it dry out between sprays every day, but spray down every day.  In the wild the birds laying season corresponds with the annual rains. So recreating the rainy season oftentimes makes them think, welp, better eat while the eating is good!

I do this to regulate the females breeding cycles too, works great.

Another thing that can have a factor is where the eggs are. You'd think having the eggs higher in the air would make them more likely to eat them. Not so much actually. If there isn't adequate space to "do the dance" of eating the egg while it's up high, then they often times won't. I could venture a guess that maybe they just don't want to fall with a mouthful. The solution there of course is to offer them on the ground. Don't worry they do predate on ground nesting bird eggs in the wild, so they still will recognize it as food there. 

Another thing to try is to place the eggs inside a dark hide. Yep, just like other snakes sometimes egg eaters are shy. Eating is a vulnerable thing, so sometimes they don't want to be watched while doing it. So if you take a little black bento box (like a Tupperware container or deli cup) and cut a hole in the side for access and then place the eggs inside it, sometimes that's just how they want it. 

You can also try dipping the egg in the water from strained canned chunk chicken in water- (do not use the oil from a can of chicken in oil! ) This can restore the smell that was stripped from the egg during the sanitizing process for commercial sourced eggs. Btw, all commercially bought eggs should be rinsed off before being offered since the sanitizer may not be safe for them. this process will restore the smell lost.

More things to try would be to take a small needle and tap a tiny hole inside the egg. That can make it smell more. We find we need to do this more for egg eaters that are in their senior years, but it sometimes does help with young eggies too. 

Some report adding some feathers to the area of the eggs has helped. I haven't had that experience personally but it makes sense. 

Welp, I hope that helps some to give you some ideas on what to do to help your egg eater back on feed. 

Feel free to contact me if you have any questions :) 

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3/24/2025

Do files really eat that?

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3/24/2025

Pros & Cons of Live & FT feed

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3/24/2025

Let's get those newborns started!

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First of all, congratulations on your clutch!​

Snake keeping is an art as well as a science, so everyone has their own methods and order they may employ them. Here's my protocols. I've developed them over the past couple decades and they work for me.  They may not work for everyone. Some people may not agree with all of these tactics, or find them all necessary. That's ok. I use them because I find them to be effective. 

Step 1). Set up hatchling bins. We house ours individually in a small plastic escape proof enclosures. At time of writing, ours measure 5" wide by 15" long by 3" high. They're basically jumbo pencil boxes. We find they do better in smaller spaces at first. Inside this bin goes a super tight hide and a water dish big enough to soak in. They're tiny so a black 2oz condiment cup with a lid, an access hole, and a pinch of peat/spagnum moss works great for the hide. An article on the importance of security and hides for feeding success can be read at this link. By the time you're breeding I assume you're already quite familiar with the temperature/humidity requirements but skadaddle on down to the care page if ya need a refresher. 

Step 2) leave 'em tf alone until after their first shed. NO handling! NO sexing! No disturbances of any kind. You wait until after the feeding for such things.
Security is so important that a lot of the other tricks people may suggest are typically reiterations of replicating a dark secure environment... i.e. the ones like, I put her in a lunch bag stapled shut and when I came back she ate! If she didn't have anywhere in her enclosure to feel safe enough to do it, then of course she would eat once you provided it. See? Point is, don't skip this step. Hides are important, safety is important. Security matters a LOT. Do I dare say more than prey choice? Yeah I do. 

We need to establish security and safety for feeding, its a very vulnerable thing! They're tiny and you're an enormous predator for all they know. Imagine a 200 foot alien ripping the roof off your house and grabbing you 150 feet into the air, messing with your butt and preventing your escape. how safe would you feel? Would your first impression of the alien be positive? Fear is the opposite of security. So do what you can to keep them feeling as safe as possible until after the first successful meal- and that includes leaving you out of the equation- just for now. As a bonus, babies allowed to establish confidence before handling also handle better when it comes time. Less fear= less panic induced flights or defensive biting etc.  Win and win.

Step 3) after the shed, its time for the first offering. Drop in a Red hot pinky mouse, whole, live, must be under 2 grams. Close it up. No dangle jangle or any nonsense. Drop it in, back away. You want them to think they just stumbled across it naturally. (again don't be the alien!)

Its important that it's under 2g. That's a "red hot"- under 2g. (Click here for more info on prey sizing) As close to 0.5g as possible would be ideal. House snakes truly can eat enormous meals for their size, but you aren't doing yourself any favors trying to get a 5 gram snake to eat a 3 gram pinky for its very first meal.... that would take some confidence they may just not have yet. So weigh it if you must, aim for as small as possible. Try no more often than once every 5 days. Once a week is a typical schedule.

Doing these three steps right works about 90% of the time....

but alas, not every time...

So after 3 attempts with a no go, the next try would be a pithing of a red hot. Take a tiny pin and poke it into the pinky brain to get some of the goo out. Gross and hurts the soul a little? Yes. Effective? Yes.

If you can't source red hots that small, take what you can acquire live, prekill by pith, then cut it in half lengthwise and try that. feed as fresh from the kill as possible.

Still no go? buy them frozen that small (rodentpro sells red hots as XS pinky mice), and try that. Yeah, sometimes some animals do prefer to start on frozen thawed. these tend to be real nervous babies. My guess is the 'dead' smell is reassuring that there wont be a struggle. Its rare but it happens! 

For the real fussy Mcfussertons:

Now its been over a month with no food. you've tried what you can with straight mice and you're at "pulling the hair out" level. Oh friend, I have been there. 

Its time to consider scenting. either make or buy some gecko juice. I recommend using house gecko. Anole isn't native it doesn't work anywhere near as well. Make sure the juice, or the prey item before it was juiced, was frozen for at least 72 hours before offering. this is because those lizards are going to be wild caught and you'll want to freeze them ahead of time to make those parasites incapable/less able to infect the snake. You wouldn't want a captive born hatchling being parasitized so young. They just aren't big enough to support the additional drain on the system.

I say consider because you shouldn't go straight to gecko juice aka " the black crack". The conversion process off gecko can be tough. They can get stuck on it- and it's not cheap. So tread here only when you've tried everything else without scenting. Still it works, especially for babies of wild caught mothers (captive hatched) because the lineage hasn't been bred towards mouse prey preference for generations like some lines of captive born (yes mine included of course). So the reason it works so well is because Gecko is the native prey and captive hatched babies haven't yet been 'wired' for rodents per se. So gecko juice is a great tool for captive hatched babies that may turn a nose at rodents. Nod Nod. 

To use you simply rinse off your mouse in tepid water, place in a small condiment cup (a tablespoon works too!) and baste a little in the gecko juice. give it like a 10 minute bath in the secret sauce and drop it in. 

Important tip!

​Give it a few weeks before you get anxious. If it's not visibly lost body condition it's ok! Bigger babies will typically take longer before their first meal. This is simply because it takes them longer to absorb all the nutrients from their egg yolk- well- because they have more of it. They just aren't hungry yet. 

The trick is to not panic with the troublesome starters. Security is the name of the game. If you've got the environment right, it likely just needs some time. So if you start doing nonsense like shoving tails down them they're not only not getting enough nutrition (tails are not nutritionally complete like while prey) you're also begging them to be nervous eaters ( association is food=not safe), plus be terrified of humans (humans=not safe). Oof. Hard lessons learned. It works in other species, but man house snakes are smart folks. they'll remember. clever girls. 

If the body condition is terrible and you truly do get desperate carnivore care can be purchased off Amazon. Mix 1 tbsp powder with water, load into a syringe equipped with a 2mm ball tip gavage needle. Administer 0.5cc a week. Carnivore care is meal replacement for critically ill reptiles, nutritionally dense and complete. Its not perfect, it won't grow them, but it works to give you some time. I've personally used it to gain a whole 4 months before the fussy butt finally got the idea that surviving is maybe a cool idea and started to eat on their own. Aye ye ye! This was a truly tiny 3gram snake who was in all other ways developmentally normal, but needed some time to get big enough to take down whole prey. I only mention this to illustrate how well it does work. I would not recommend that level of a stretch under other circumstances. which brings me to....

Lastly, sometimes we have to accept that failure to thrive is real. 

The truth is, you truly can not save them all.
At some point as a breeder you do need to assess if this animal will have a good quality of life, and if not euthanasia needs to be considered. It hurts, especially when you've put a lot of effort and hope into the little guy, but being forced to eat their entire life is not a good quality of life for a snake. A lot of these guys that just truly seem to be fighting the idea of eating have internal issues that you may not be seeing on the outside. They may be suffering, and keeping them going through artificial means is not humane. Letting them go does NOT mean you failed. It means you came to conclusion that their peace was more important than your feelings. That takes real strength and maturity. It hurts, but when we venture to bring life into the world, we must also embrace that the opposite side of that coin is death. Still, may the odds of that coin toss be ever in your favor friend. :)

I hope this helps. If you have any questions feel free to reach out. 



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3/24/2025

Troubleshooting Feeding Issues in house snakes

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6/25/2024

Notes on Freezerburn

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If your snake has stopped eating frozen thawed after being previously established on it, freezer burn may be the culprit. 

Lamprophid snakes tend to be a bit sensitive to freezer burnt prey. This is especially true for file snakes. I think this may be because they rely heavily on their sense of smell, and as prey oxidizes it changes in smell, texture, and even color. It may get to a point where the animal simply doesn't recognize it as food anymore. Anyone who's attempted to eat a freezer burnt steak can tell you the flavor is definitely affected as well. So it's not hard to understand why snakes may reject freezer burnt prey.

So here's what you need to know about freezer burn in regards to prey items. 

Prey will become freezer burnt within 6 months, from the first day it was froze, which is not likely going to be when you bought or received it. 

Unfortunately, yes some pet stores and even online prey retailers will sell you prey that is already freezer burnt. So the length of time you've had it may not be a factor at all in determining if the prey is freezer burnt :(

There are not always visible signs of freezer burn, but sometimes you can see spots develop as the prey oxidizes.
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Progression of freezer burn left to right.
Notice how the pinky on the far right has many oxidation spots and a slight yellow tint. This is common in advanced freezerburn, and many snakes are not likely eat mice that look like this.

Its not always that obvious though. Especially if the animal already has fur.

Here's a way to check if your rejected prey may be freezer burnt without any visible oxidation spots.

First offer your snake a prekilled mouse, something freshly expired. If it eats that, then you know its not that it wants the movement of live prey.

Then try another prekilled mouse, but this time freeze it the night before, and prepare it the same way you prepared the rejected frozen from before. If it takes that, then the odds are very good that the rejected prey may be freezerburnt. If they don’t, then there is likely something in the preparation of the prey that they don’t like- it may be too cold or warm, or wet etc

Here's some tips on how to avoid freezer burnt prey:

Order your frozen thawed prey in quantities that would last 2 months at a time. This can reduce waste since you wont likely know how long they've already been frozen and stored for at the time that you purchase them.

Package the prey with as little air as possible. Less air = less oxygen to oxidize the meat = less freezer burn.

Set the freezer they're being stored at to 0 degrees. This is the optimal temperature for frozen meat, there is no need to go any colder, and doing so may even make the prey freezer burn faster.

Is freezer burnt prey safe for my snake to eat?
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Yes it is. freezer burnt prey that doesn't have any other signs of spoilage, is still safe for your snake to eat. It's just far more likely to be rejected than prey that is more fresh. If your snake has ate freezer burnt prey there isn't any reason for concern so long as they aren't showing any symptoms of illness.

I hope you found this information helpful. If you have any questions feel free to contact me.


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5/16/2024

What is a red hot? Notes on prey sizing

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Its easy to get a little confused by prey size labels in mice.
If you're looking into buying a snake and the breeder tells you they're feeding on "pinkies" what exactly does that mean? If you google it you'll find that a pinky is a baby mouse that doesn't have any fur. That's a good enough explanation for larger snake species. However, it doesn't serve you well in house snakes, or other species that start out life very small because the size of a newborn "pinky" can be 8 times smaller in weight than a large "pinky". 
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Here's a look at pinky mice sizes starting at newborn (or "redhots" as they are called here in Florida). Newborns are typically half a gram in weight to 1g. Small pinkies are about 1-2 gram. Medium are 2-2.5g. Large pinkies are 2.5-3.5 grams, Peach fuzzy are roughly 3.5-4.5 grams. Fuzzies are 4.5-6. 
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This is the way that I personally organize my sizing however, and different rodent breeders may use different labels, or different gram weights to describe each of the same labels. Many prey sources will not have "pinkies" broke down into as many sizes as this either. 
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For example, One prey source: Rodentpro.com breaks their sizing down ​like this: 
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photo credit: Rodentpro.com
Laynelabs uses different labels- doesn't use the "peach fuzzy" label at all. Also uses different gram weights.
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photo credit: Laynelabs.com
Other sources may not use as many breakdowns at all. like AmericanRodent.com
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photo credit: americanrodentsupply.com
So if you walk into a pet store and order a "pinky" you could be given a prey item anywhere from half a gram to 4 grams. To make matters even more confusing, rodents can mature differently, especially across different breeders, so using a lack or presence of hair to label prey can get you different results. 
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So if you're raising a very small snake, its best to compare gram weights when looking for prey source, not label names. For most species a few grams difference isn't going to be an issue, but in very small snakes it can be. Typically speaking, a 5 gram hatchling is not going to want to eat a 4 gram "pinky" no matter how it's presented. 

So if your hatchling was started on "newborn" pinkies. It is not reasonable to assume they would be willing to eat large pinkies. It is possible that they can, but they probably will not.

Don't get me wrong, House snakes are capable of eating enormous prey relative to their body size, but that doesn't mean they will *want* to. especially as young hatchlings. 
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A wild house snake eats a large bird
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Photo Credits: https://latestsightings.com/single-post/snake-swallows-bird-3-times-its-size-rustenburg

I think its prudent to mention here that although size matters greatly to hatchlings that are feeding on their own, that doesn't mean you start them by force feeding them pinky heads or chopping the mice up, anything like that.

I personally start all hatchling house snakes on whole live newborn mice, up to 2 grams in weight max, and they will stay on that size for the first couple months or longer depending on size at hatching. We start to switch them to frozen after their 4th meal. As they grow the size of prey begins to matter less and less, but very young hatchlings that haven't developed their confidence will need appropriately sized prey to be willing to eat on their own. So it does matter.

I hope this helps to explain some of the confusion surrounding prey sizing with house snakes. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me. :) 


p.s.: I list some online prey sources here for illustrative purposes only. Their inclusion in this post is not sponsored by them, and is not in any way an endorsement of their products, Ok? ok. 

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